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Old 06-30-2004, 04:04 PM
silke247 silke247 is offline
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PTL not responding? It's THEIR loss!

Looking at the Affiliate Resource Centre today, they have posted the
"SFI Path to Success - Where Are You?" again.

1. Become MIQ
2. Build a Team and become a Team Leader
3. Identify Leaders on your Team, help them become Leaders
4. Become a Group Leader
5. Help Your Team Leaders become Group Leaders
6. Enjoy Financial success!

If your PTL is at stage 2 and isn't doing stage 3, it's their loss, not yours.
Because you have to do stage 3 before you can get to stage 4.

It's a pity that SFI doesn't allow powerline "jumping" or allow us to control our matrices like some other progs do. If I heard from a second line (my "grandchildren") that their leader wasn't supporting them, I'd kick that "leader"'s butt. If they repeatedly did this, I'd move their affiliates to a better downline.

We hear that PTLs are supposed to support their downline and show that they are doing this, but this can't be the case if so many affiliates come here to report otherwise.

But we also hear from PTLs here who have lost their downlines due to the dropping out. This is unfortnate in the case of hard working PTLs with inactive affiliates.
It's a pity we can't move them ALL around.

I have some lazy people still signed up that haven't even done Smart Start but haven't opted out either. I'd love to be able to kick them out!

And I also see all these people on the board getting no PTL support and think "I'd love to have you on my team"!

I'm currently at stage 3 and well on my way to stage 4.
Stage 6 is my long term goal.
Those who just sit on stage 2, well, they are never going to get to stage 6!

Their loss, not yours!


Silke
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Old 06-30-2004, 05:10 PM
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Silke,

I appreciate your enthusiam! Keep going for it!!

I wanted to clarify a couple statements you made however.

1. Support is a very subjective term. Some of your team may think you support them well, others may not. Surely you wouldn't want us taking your referrals away from you just because they claim you're not supporting them. There are many, many reasons that could explain it like email being non-delivered, etc. Again, it's subjective but we do our best to make sure PTLs ARE providing support (we've recently added additional monitoring of PTL activity for example).

2. Privacy is a serious issue, especially on the Internet. We cannot legally just move people around and expose their contact information to unauthorized persons.

3. Percentage-wise, there are probably not a huge number of affiliates who don't get the needed support. It may just appear that way on the DBoard.

4. Note that very soon we WILL be giving leaders the ability to change sponsorship of any of their personally referred affiliates. it will be a very simple, quick process for example to move affiliates under your developing leaders to help them.

Again, you have a great attitude, Silke. I expect to see you on the Group Leaders list in the near future.

Gery
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Old 06-30-2004, 06:10 PM
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Thanks Gery,

Now if that isn't the encouragement I need to motivate me to make GL, I don't know what is!

Thanks for your reply, esp point 4 below, that is great news.

I've been spending a lot of time on the dBoard this spring - as I run my business from home fulltime now I can afford to do the forum thing (it is vitally important I have found to keep networking)
- and often meet other SFI regs at other boards - Karen at CB for example.

But my heart really goes out to people who post to say they aren't getting the support they so badly want and need, and it's great the way everyone here rushes to answer their questions and offer all the help they can.
I have been personally asked direct questions on this board a few times now and am pleased to be able to offer any advice and info, and it's great to see people like Omeomi, MJDomini always giving good advice and positive support.

There is that saying: don't doubt that a small group of committed individuals can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has.

Well there are a lot of committed individuals at SFI and they have certainly changed Network Martketing for the better.

To quote Jim Morrison "I'm proud to be a part of this number".

Keep the faith


Silke
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:11 PM
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4. Note that very soon we WILL be giving leaders the ability to change sponsorship of any of their personally referred affiliates. it will be a very simple, quick process for example to move affiliates under your developing leaders to help them.
Is this a "slip" or a "hint" of one of the "attractions" that you will be announcing tommorrow, July1?

Or is it going to be later than that? ;)
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:32 AM
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Sounds like good things are on the way!

Silke - I truly believe that most PTL's DO support their affiliates. When you consider the large number of SFI affiliates, the "no support" complaints posted are an extremely small number.
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Old 07-01-2004, 06:06 AM
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Omeomi - guess you're right. Maybe it just seems like we answer a lot of them!

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Old 07-01-2004, 09:09 AM
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You're right....we do answer quite a few. But many of them are not "I have not heard from my PTL"....they are "I haven't heard ....quickly....or haven't heard daily....or haven't heard what I WANT to hear"....

Also, many of the questions "that haven't been answered" are clearly answered in the excellent SFI training articles and in SmartStart.
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:34 AM
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4. Note that very soon we WILL be giving leaders the ability to change sponsorship of any of their personally referred affiliates. it will be a very simple, quick process for example to move affiliates under your developing leaders to help them.
:Super: I am really excited about the possibilites of this hint! :Super:

A system where I can offer upgrades (MIQs) as a reward for upgrading. And to be able to teach why I am doing it (duplication). I believe this can help my 'cripple' :Sleep: ratio go down!

WooHoo !!!
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:49 AM
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I have noticed a trend in that as well - then a post by a new member, just joined this month, first post, and it's on a subject we've answered several times before.

I had the Traffic Swarm debate on one thread twice and then it appeared on Get Started as well. Three times in one week!

And we're bound to get a couple more posts from newbies about MDT:
"I've found a great new program called Million Dollar Traffic..."
(The fact that they join as user 3500 should let them know there are probably a good few people there before them. And if they've been running it, they will have seen the many SFI ads.)

Oh well, at least they're keen!


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Old 07-01-2004, 10:16 AM
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2. Privacy is a serious issue, especially on the Internet. We cannot legally just move people around and expose their contact information to unauthorized persons.
Currently, although new affiliates are told to contact the PTL...only the sponsor has full info on them (including email address).

If the sponsor opts out, it is difficult for the PTL to anything more than include orphaned affiiates in CM group emails.

Privacy is extremely important....but it is not efficient to expect PTL's to provide good support to those they have only a "name" and "send" button on.

I currently have about 300 affiliates who lost their sponsor or PTL. The opt outs were caused by serious problems beyond the sponsors control...but I know these affiliates need additional help.

Previously, I could click "send" and copy/paste in an email to them. Now I must click send...and enter their id....and make certain it's right as the name doesn't appear. I have no time for this tedious method 300 times.

CM does not have a "send to affiliates sponsored by xxx" option.
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:37 AM
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Smile Hi Karen

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen Barnes
Is this a "slip" or a "hint" of one of the "attractions" that you will be announcing tommorrow, July1?

Or is it going to be later than that? ;)

In the new follow up letters from SFI (for new affiliates) I found (I think) Gery saying something about new additions coming this Fall.

I hope this (along w/ the hint of PayPal in another post) becomes a reality soon.

Oh ... and let's not forget those catalogs ;)
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Old 08-20-2004, 12:48 PM
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Quite some time has passed since I made this post and things have moved on in the company, with the new features. Fall is just around the corner and we know each year things explode in Internet Marketing once the leaves turn.

Is everyone else excited?


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Old 08-23-2004, 03:42 AM
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Hi Silke,

You know the great thing about SFI, is that all we have to do, is to keep doing what we are doing, and that is advertising and working with our leaders and potential leaders. Then its a done deal.

You never know when the next period of advertising, will bring in those affiliates that 'see' this opportunity and want to run with it.

All the GLs have ever done is to advertise and build their groups, and we just have to do the same.

This is what makes SFI the 'predictable' business that it is. Just follow the others, dont change the system. Be humble, teachable, relatable, and enthusiastic.

Good luck.

Colin777
 


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